The High Cost of Unpaid Internships

May 14, 2012Tim Price

Young Americans are doing real work for fake benefits, and it’s causing serious harm to them and our workforce.

Young Americans are doing real work for fake benefits, and it’s causing serious harm to them and our workforce.

Summer is almost upon us and college students across the nation eagerly await vacation and graduation. But once they finish their term papers and pass their final exams, they face a far more daunting challenge: finding a job. That won’t be easy with the unemployment rate for young adults at 13.2 percent, but staring down the barrel of $1 trillion in student debt has them desperate to find an in. As Steven Greenhouse of the New York Times recently reported, undergraduates – and even newly minted baccalaureates – are turning to unpaid internships in droves. Unfortunately, their free labor isn’t doing much good for them or our economic recovery. But there is a solution, and to find it, all we need to do is crack open the history books ourselves and read up on the New Deal.

Greenhouse notes, “experts estimate that undergraduates work in more than one million internships a year, with Intern Bridge, a research firm, finding almost half unpaid.” This represents a steep increase from just a few years earlier. How do all these companies get away with paying their young workers nothing? Federal law lays out clear requirements for such positions, which amount to vocational training opportunities that don’t displace paid employees and from which the employer “derives no immediate advantage.” Moreover, the law states, “on occasion the employer’s operations may actually be impeded” by the intern’s presence.

So take heart, unpaid interns: the next time your boss scolds you for showing up late, transposing the numbers on a spreadsheet, or accidentally jamming the copy machine, just explain that you’re doing your part to help keep your company on good terms with the Department of Labor.

The rules that separate an unpaid intern from an employee who’s being denied a wage are flouted so routinely and enforced so rarely that they might as well not exist. The proof is staring us in the face: if unpaid interns truly provided no benefit to employers, why would companies bother to keep half a million of them around? Eric Glatt, who was hired as an unpaid intern at the age of 40 and wound up doing the job of an accounting clerk, says, “This culture of expecting to be able to get free labor if you slap the title intern on it has become so pervasive that people don’t question whether it’s ethically wrong or legally acceptable.” He and others like him have brought this issue to light recently through a series of lawsuits, but we don’t have to wait for a court ruling to know there are serious practical and moral problems with giving young workers all the responsibilities of a “real” employee with none of the benefits.

The most basic reason that young Americans take these positions is to build their résumés and make connections that will get them a full-time job offer. But unpaid internships fail even on that level. As EPI’s Ross Eisenbrey notes, a 2011 study by the National Association of Colleges and Employers found that “[u]npaid internships… provided no advantage in terms of full-time job offer rates or starting salary” and “in every category were a serious disadvantage in terms of starting salary.” So not only are these interns not getting paid for their work, but they’re actively harming their future prospects. In other words, they would literally be better off doing nothing at all than taking an unpaid internship.

If unpaid interns were just wasting their own time and not harming anyone else, this might seem unfortunate but relatively unimportant in the grand scheme of things. However, unpaid internships create much broader problems in the workforce with ripple effects throughout our society. For one thing, as useless as they may be in general, unpaid internships are nevertheless a luxury. Not everyone can afford to work for free, so when that risk does pay off and lead to a steady job it privileges young workers whose families have the financial resources to support them while they’re biding their time. Given America’s soaring inequality and deepening class divisions, the last thing we need is to have our so-called job creators running rich kid recruitment programs. (Besides, we already have Ivy League schools for that.)

While giving the privileged a boost, unpaid internships also hold other workers down. As Generation Debt author Anya Kamenetz has pointed out, unpaid interns “create an oversupply of people willing to work for…literally nothing,” allowing companies to eliminate low-level paid positions and reduce the bargaining power of their paid employees. On the flip side of the coin, these positions inculcate a mindset that may stay with young workers for the rest of their lives: don’t demand what you deserve; just settle for whatever you can get. Kamenetz writes that they also “promote overidentification with employers: I make sacrifices to work free, therefore I must love my work.” Together, this adds up to a power dynamic in which employers hold all the cards and lowly workers feel lucky just to be doing something, no matter how little it benefits them. Fostering these beliefs harms the labor movement and efforts to bargain for more equitable pay and working conditions.

The question is: if we eliminate unpaid internships while the economy remains too weak to provide college students and recent grads with real job opportunities, what do we expect them to do with their lives? They could stay in school longer, but that’s not an affordable or particularly useful option for everyone, and it only delays reckoning with the real problem. They could also take shelter in their parents’ basement and wait for the economy to pick up on its own, but there’s no telling how long that will take, and unless future employers place a lot more value on Mario Kart skills, we’ll be allowing an entire generation to atrophy and deal a permanent setback to their future earning potential.

Luckily, as with many other challenges we face today, FDR already figured this one out for us. With New Deal programs like the Civilian Conservation Corps, he put millions of young people to work on projects that had a lasting impact on our country. Describing his plans to Congress, Roosevelt explained that the CCC would “take a vast army of these unemployed out into healthful surroundings” and help to eliminate the threat of “enforced idleness.” That last phrase, “enforced idleness,” is a perfect description of what policymakers are subjecting Americans to today as a result of their failure to fund more stimulus and public works projects. As Roosevelt Institute Senior Fellow David Woolner has argued, launching a modern-day CCC would “provide the millions of young people trapped in the despair of poverty with meaningful employment, a chance to further education, and the one thing that FDR was determined to provide above all else: hope for the future.” If we help to make sure their imaginary jobs go the way of their imaginary friends, our young workers may be able to bring about a real recovery.

Tim Price is Deputy Editor of Next New Deal. You can follow him on Twitter @txprice.

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More on the Case for the Public University as a Public Option

May 3, 2012Mike Konczal

Josh Barro has an editorial at the Daily, Making U. Pay, about the college affordability cost crisis.  Barro:

Josh Barro has an editorial at the Daily, Making U. Pay, about the college affordability cost crisis.  Barro:

What the University of Florida (along with every other American college and university) really needs is cost discipline...Colleges still need to employ a lot of highly skilled workers, and college costs are tied to their wages, which rise faster than inflation...colleges and universities have failed to mitigate this phenomenon. For example, over the last few decades, the typical public four-year college has seen a sharp expansion of its support and managerial staff — from 5.5 per 100 students in 1987 to 7.5 per 100 in 2007...

Unfortunately, consumers do not have the necessary incentives to impose cost discipline in the market. The perceived necessity of a college degree to find a middle-class job gives students few options but to pay up...State legislatures, too, should put pressure on public colleges and universities not to increase staffing relative to student populations, and to respond to budgetary strains with cost control instead of tuition hikes or reductions in enrollment...Colleges and universities should take greater advantage of technological advances that could finally improve productivity in the education sector, such as distance learning and video instruction...

These reforms, different though they are, have one aim in common: creating incentives for all actors in the market to make higher education not just cheaper, but more efficient. That may sound unromantic, but it’s necessary to maintain educational opportunity for all.

I agree with most of the piece.  Barro doesn't take his argument in this direction, but, with the risk of dragging Josh into a social democratic quicksand pit, it's useful to reframe this discussion as one of reclaiming a "public option" in higher education.  Much of the discussion on the technical efficiency of the public provisioning of merit goods focuses on scale and compulsion, which is relevant for higher education, but there's also advantages in cost control and baseline quality.  By holding down tuition, the public university can act as a check on runaway price inflation in the private university market.  Considerations about dynamic efficiency - improvements in quality - seem not as relevant here in the formal education market: private sector tuition is exploding as fast as public tuition.  If we are concerned that boosting demand through price subsidies is captured by incumbent suppliers, then boosting access through reducing tuition on public universities should negate those rents.

Dynamic efficency is very important when it comes to the online and future sectors of higher education.  However public options help here as well: having a strong baseline of quality is important for vetting the actual efficiency improvements of these new institutions.  Public options solve a certain type of informational problem.  If prices are lowered, it can be difficult for the government and citizens to tell if it is because market innovations have allowed for lower cost production or because they are providing services of a cheaper quality.  The private market is more incentivized to provide new benefit options and offer greater flexibility when they have to compete against a baseline product.  This creates the incentives mentioned above, but these incentives work more towards actual quality improvements instead of rent-seeking when they are competing against a public baseline.  We know for-profit schools are a bad deal because they statistically underperform public community colleges while having larger debt burdens.  Online education at California looks to have equally high drop-out rates. This was part of the important intellectual firepower over the debate on "vanilla products" that erupted during the early parts of Dodd-Frank, brought over to the education sector.

Tim Noah wondered to Matt Yglesias if we should impose cost controls on colleges; I think we should instead do what we know has worked - make sure a public option is available to all, and have a private market develop alongside it, filling in the efficiency gaps wherever they are.  I forgot to link to this, but Aaron Bady had a powerful defense of the California Master Plan, the mid-century public higher education model, when we did a bloggingheads a few weeks ago:

 

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Andrew McAfee on the Quickly Encroaching (Economic) Dominance of Our Robot Overlords

Apr 26, 2012

Last week, Roosevelt Institute Senior Fellow Bo Cutter’s latest installment of the Next American Economy breakfast series featured Andrew McAfee, principal research scientist at MIT’s Center for Digital Business, discussing his book The Race Against the Machine.

Last week, Roosevelt Institute Senior Fellow Bo Cutter’s latest installment of the Next American Economy breakfast series featured Andrew McAfee, principal research scientist at MIT’s Center for Digital Business, discussing his book The Race Against the Machine. A self-proclaimed technology optimist, McAfee lays out in stark and sobering terms the workforce displacement that has already taken place and will continue as the speed of technological innovation only increases. Watch here as McAfee relates how chess, rice, and, an Indian emperor help explain why computers keep getting twice as fast every year:

While computers are able to take on increasingly complicated tasks (like becoming a Jeopardy champion), McAfee notes that there are still a few places where humans can hold their own against their soon-to-be cyber overlords, namely complex communication, advanced pattern recognition, and entrepreneurship. However, examples of “science fiction becoming reality,” like the Google Car and nearly pitch-perfect language translation software, make clear that computers “are eating away at those advantages very quickly.” Bottom line: As a result of this “unprecedented digital encroachment,” the bundle of skills that the typical American worker has to offer potential employers is dwindling.

On the upside, McAfee makes clear that technological progress will continue to make us a more productive and rich society. But with the way things are wired right now, not everyone will get to enjoy the party. McAfee points out that while GDP and even mean income is generally increasing, median income has actually declined.

So what can we do about all this? McAfee offers up three places to start. First, invest in America’s infrastructure. Second, use appropriate policy tools (read: taxes) to deal with what we know will be increasing distance between haves and have-nots. Finally, increase innovation in our education system at all levels. McAfee believes our fate is in our own hands and that “the choices that we make as a society and an economy over the next generation are really going to strongly determine whether it’s a utopian or dystopian future that we head into.” 

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Is There a Good Case For Doubling Student Loan Interest Rates?

Apr 25, 2012Mike Konczal

Sarah Jaffe recently wrote a story about how yesterday was the estimated day student debt would hit $1 trillion dollars. President Obama has called for Congress to keep interest rates on subsidized student loans at 3.4 percent instead of letting them revert back to 6.8 percent as per the law passed in 2007.

Sarah Jaffe recently wrote a story about how yesterday was the estimated day student debt would hit $1 trillion dollars. President Obama has called for Congress to keep interest rates on subsidized student loans at 3.4 percent instead of letting them revert back to 6.8 percent as per the law passed in 2007. He has even started a twitter hastag for it, #dontdoublemyrate. It looks like Mitt Romney is also against letting the rate go up.

Is there any good arguments for letting interest rates on student loans double? I've been trying to find some, so let's take a tour through the right-wing.

Douglas Holtz-Eakin essentially punts at National Review Online, saying that it is a distraction. "Americans would be better able to afford college if their budgets were less pressured by gasoline, food, and health-insurance premiums."  Umm, sure, I guess, though the rate matters quite a bit to those who will be impacted by it. What does that have to do with what the rate should be?

"Artificially" Low Rates?

Heritage quotes Eakins and adds a fun "None of this is to say that the federal government should be doing more to bail out students. It shouldn’t... But the current debate’s origins are in separate legislation passed in 2007 whereby the federal government set interest rates on student loans artificially low." Bailouts! Yes, bailouts.

Are rates "artifically low," thus bailing out student debtors? Right now, the United States can borrow for 10 years at real, or inflation-adjusted, interest rates that are negative. The 30-year conventional mortgage rate is the lowest its been in over 40 years. The market is using ultra-low interest rates to beg anyone who can make productive use of capital to borrow it  Educating our young citizens in universities that are the envy of the world certainly seems like a productive use of capital. So how is not jacking up interest rates when 10 year government debt yields are at ultra-low 2 percent rates the equivalent of paying AIG creditors at par during the financial bailouts?

The implication is that they are below market rates. "Below-market" here is a troublesome phrase, as the private market for student loans is incomplete, prone to collapse, thin, and exists either through previous credit guarentees or a reworking of the various rules that govern debt in this country. This constitutes the government stepping up to do the things that the private market won't. As Keynes said, "The important thing for government is not to do things which individuals are doing already, and to do them a little better or a little worse; but to do those things which at present are not done at all."

Cost to Taxpayers

Cato tries harder to make a case if you can cut through a tangled web of metaphors about being "good parents" to kids. Neal McCluskey argues, "Finally, there’s the cost to taxpayers."

I like how he doesn't mention that this actually runs a profit for taxpayers. From the Department of Education student loan overview (R-10): "For Direct Loans, the overall weighted average subsidy rate was estimated to be -13.91 percent in FY 2011; that is, the overall program on average was projected to earn about 13.91 percent on each dollar of loans made, thereby providing savings to the Federal Government.” Unless you start making up discount rates, these loans make a profit for taxpayers.

As Alan White notes, according to the "Congressional Budget Office, $37 billion will flow IN to Treasury from student loans made this fiscal year at the 3.4% rate (on a net present value basis and net of about $1.5 billion to administer them.) " If anything, we should make rates lower than 3.4 percent.

Lavishing Cheap Credit

Cato continues by arguing, "the reality is that policymakers have been lavishing cheap money on students for decades...all the cheap aid has enabled colleges to raise their prices at breakneck speeds, rendering the aid largely self-defeating and college pricing insane."

For aid to be "self-defeating," you'd have to imagine a completely inelastic, fixed supply of higher education, which I hope isn't Cato's argument against keeping current rates. But maybe the author's on to something. If you look at, say, the maximum amount of Pell Grants, do they rise in proportion with increases in tuition? Ummm, no:

As Demos notes in its 10 points on how student debt is blocking mobility, "In 1980, 39 percent of federal financial aid to undergraduates was in the form of loans, and 55 percent was awarded in grants. By 2008, this had shifted to 64 percent of the funds awarded as loans and only 26 percent as grants. Moreover, today’s maximum Pell Grant covers just over a third of the costs of attending a public 4-year university, down from over two-thirds in 1980."

Meanwhile, during the same time period, numerous legal restrictions have been put on student debt and protections have been stripped away, which means that the major government changes to student debt involve the it making it a harder, not easier, form of debt to manage. Nondischargeability went from five years to seven years in 1990, until it was revoked permanently in 1998 (when the statute of limitations was also removed). That was extended to for-profit student loans in 2005. Social Security became eligible for student loan collections in 1996. The argument that student debt became "lavish" during the past 20 years requires some additional work.

And though some of the lower rates are captured by increased tuition because of inelastic supply -- an argument that is equivalent to saying that free, "public option" public universities would thus contain runaway costs -- current tuition movements look like they are being driven more by states cutting support for public universities during the Great Recession. As the CBPP notes, at least 43 states cut services to public higher education. That's what is going to drive serious tuition increases in the next few years.

(Digging into some of this research, the lack of decent empirical work linking increased aid to tuition increases is startling given how much movement conservatives rely on such an argument.)

There Are Better Subsidies

Friend-of-the-blog Josh Barro at Forbes has the another set of arguments against blocking rate increases. First Josh argues that we need to think of a low rate as a subsidy: "A below-market interest rate for Stafford Loans is just another subsidy mechanism—essentially, you can think of the present value of the interest savings as a partial subsidy of a student’s tuition payments." Josh also notes that "Instead of extending the policy of holding Stafford Loan interest rates very low, why not let rates go back up and redirect the cost of the subsidy into an expansion of Pell Grants and refundable tuition tax credits?"

Sure, but right now these loans are profitable. As noted above, we spent the last 20 years stripping out protections from these loans to guarantee a high recovery rate. There's no decent market rate to compare this to, given how thin and incomplete the private lending market is in this space. So why not fund it closer to where the government can borrow, adding in a small spread for administration and to cover losses?
 
Pell grants should be considered in their own right. But this is a specific conversation about what the government should charge when it is acting as a lender to young people, collecting the spread between the rate it can borrow and what students will pay. If that spread is very high because capital markets want the government to borrow, that doesn't strike me as an excuse for the government to squeeze borrowers more and use the extra profit it makes at 6.8 percent to do something different. Even if it is a good idea to raise Pell Grants, that doesn't change the nature of how low interest rates are right now, and how the government should approach the rates it sets for students in a way that is fair.
 
So what's left as far as arguments go?

 

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Virginia Foxx's Comment and the Intergenerational Problem of the Public University

Apr 20, 2012Mike Konczal

Scott Keyes at Think Progress notes the following comment from Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-NC), who chairs the House subcommittee on higher education:

Scott Keyes at Think Progress notes the following comment from Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-NC), who chairs the House subcommittee on higher education:

FOXX: I went through school, I worked my way through, it took me seven years, I never borrowed a dime of money. He borrowed a little bit because we both were totally on our own when we went to college, totally. [...] I have very little tolerance for people who tell me that they graduate with $200,000 of debt or even $80,000 of debt because there’s no reason for that. We live in an opportunity society and people are forgetting that. I remind folks all the time that the Declaration of Independence says “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” You don’t have it dumped in your lap.

A major problem with our leaders is that they are approaching what is happening in the public university through a mental model of a world that no longer exists.

EdwardMurray at DailyKos notes "Virginia Foxx went to the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill in 1968. According to the National Center for Education Statistics, in 1968, the average yearly cost for tuition, room, and board for a public university was $1,245 which, in today’s words, is one thousand two hundred and forty-five dollars for a year’s worth of college. For today’s average college student, that dollar amount is roughly equivalent to the cost of a textbook and a garbage bag."  Quick and the Ed has notes "Representative Foxx would have paid $279 for the academic year—about $2,140 today. That’s about equivalent to what students pay right now at community colleges, not public four-year institutions—especially not public flagships."  Rebuild the Dream has a petition going on the matter.

Beyond the fact that it was much cheaper, how does University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill's tutition look on a chart?  Digging into UNC-Chapel Hill's Office of Institutional Research and Assessment website, which has online collections of several previously published yearly reports (data from here, here, here and here), we can construct the following graph.  Some years, especially earlier ones, are missing. Data is adjusted for inflation:

 

As you can see, tuition is roughly around $2,000 a year for most of the 20th century after the Great Depression.  Starting in the late 1990s and early 2000s it skyrockets.  It shows no sign of slowing down, either.  This is a political choice, based on what we want the university to do and how we want to provide it as a country.  There was a political consesus that made sure Virginia Foxx had college available as a publicly-provided good - her "opportunity society" is a world of high quality "public options" available to those who can use them - and now there is a new set of active choices to have students at UNC-Chapel Hill graduate with debt.  Foxx should know better than to ascribe it as a simple morality play.  If she doesn't know this, which is possible, that's a major problem.

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What Should You Know About the Quebec Student Strikes and Occupations?

Apr 17, 2012Mike Konczal

One thing to remember about Occupy is that it has much of its current origins, successes, and most intense interactions with authority around the spaces of college campuses. Its activism is particularly innovative when it comes to direct actions, occupations, and student strikes, all to combat college tuition increases, privatization, and the creation of student debt markets.

One thing to remember about Occupy is that it has much of its current origins, successes, and most intense interactions with authority around the spaces of college campuses. Its activism is particularly innovative when it comes to direct actions, occupations, and student strikes, all to combat college tuition increases, privatization, and the creation of student debt markets. Here’s the Wikipedia entry on the Puerto Rico student strikes, where they were protesting massive waves of layoffs of government workers and campus faculty and an estimated 100 percent tuition hike. Here’s the Wikipedia entry on the Chilean student strikes, which date back to 2006, where students fought high application fees they couldn’t afford. And, of course, there's what is going on at University of California, with the pepper spray at Davis and the beatings both in 2009 and 2011 at Berkeley.

But the most interesting resistance happening right now is going on in Quebec, Canada. There are, according to one representative report, over 165,000 students on strike from class out of 495,000 in the student body.

Quebec is looking to increase its tuition 75 percent over the next several years. Students responded by starting what is now the longest strike in the province's history. It's gone on even though the government has offered to make student loans a nicer, kinder form of debt, with income-contingent repayments, while not budging on the tuition hikes.

This image by Tina Mailhot-Roberge shows tens of thousands of people marching through Montreal on March 22nd, 2012:

And here's an amazing video of two and a half hours of the protest time-lapsed down into 50 seconds on YouTube. And with a h/t to The Nation, here's the Real News Network's coverage of the protests.

The strike is heading into a dangerous time. The administration isn't looking to make concessions on tuition and students are approaching the point where they won't complete the semester. This will be worth watching in the weeks ahead.

Why are these sites so potent for activism? The college campus combines several issues into one: the privatization of public services, the dismembering of social insurance and its replacement with a regime of debt and risk-shifting, and the dismantling of the primary means of social mobility with one designed to entrench inequality, which all builds toward a lack of freedom to fully develop one's talents and abilities and be full, productive citizens.

These students are right to fight this battle at the beginning, during the initials cuts. Privatization creates its own justification; the more public universities are defunded and reconceived as a private good, the less civic interest there is in defending them as a public good. And they are also fighting at the beginning of their lives, both for what kind of world they want to live in and against the constraints of indenture that we see when this process of privatization and debt reaches its ultimate conclusion -- a path the United States is much further along.

Mike Konczal is a Fellow at the Roosevelt Institute.

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What Does "Fair Value" Accounting Say About the Government?

Apr 16, 2012Mike Konczal

Charles Lane had an editorial at the Washington Post while I was out about fair value accounting:

Charles Lane had an editorial at the Washington Post while I was out about fair value accounting:

There is general agreement that federal budgets should include a dollar figure for the estimated lifetime cost of each year’s new lending. Congress adds up all the expected cash flow associated with a particular credit program — interest and principal payments, fees, expected defaults — and calculates its “present value,” based on a notional interest rate known as the discount rate.

Under current law, however, Congress bases these estimates on the government’s ultra-cheap cost of borrowing. That means the calculations are done as though everyone were as default-proof as Uncle Sam, which understates the costs and risks to taxpayers.

The Congressional Budget Office believes “fair value” accounting, which adjusts the discount rate to reflect the risk of widespread defaults during downswings in the business cycle, would be more accurate.

Yglesias responded here.  This is entirely a fight over the discount rate to use for estimating government loans and whether we should be "measur[ing] the costs of federal loans and loan guarantees at [private] market prices."  As those of you who follow the global warming economics debates closely know, slight changes in discount rates can have huge policy implications.

Jason Delisie of New America and Economics21 also argued for fair value accounting at The Agenda Blog in light of a post I wrote; he was also kind enough to invite me to a big Economics21 panel he organized on fair value accounting which is online here.

A few points.

1.  I tried to make an example using swaps but it didn't convey the point well, so let's try it a different way.  Imagine two identical firms A and B, who are making identical loans.  They should use the same discount rate, correct?

Now imagine that A has a lower borrowing cost of capital than B for whatever exogenous reasons - ratings, savings, size, etc. It must be the case, provided that cost of capital is a monotonically increasing input into the discount rate (and I know of no model in which that isn't the case), that A has a lower discount rate.  A is the government here under these circumstances.  That doesn't mean that the discount rate should be the cost of borrowing per se, but financial logic dictates we don't take the same market discount rate as B for A.  I haven't seen a sufficient answer to this argument.

2.  It's ironic that Lane pushes the idea of "downswings" so aggressively, because the whole reason the government now stands behind the mortgage market is because the entire private market collapsed during the downswing.  Student loans weren't going to go out and the securitization channel is a swamp of fraud, missing or forged documents and bad incentives on the servicing end.  Meanwhile the government churns along without a crisis.

I'm not sure what to make of the argument that private lending channels couldn't survive the downturn without their costs exploding and therefore the government, which is surviving fine, should use the discount rates of the private market - more prone to collapse! - because of a risk of a downturn.

3.  Most of these arguments, especially in response to #1 above, are predicated that "shareholders" of the government, i.e. citizens, need to be compensated some amount X - equivalent to private market returns.  It's not clear to me why this is the case or how to determine it other than a normative argument about what government is. I brought up that this implies a normative argument as to what the government is supposed to do in the panel and got some really bad looks from the wonks in the audience; Yglesias also came to the same conclusion in his response to Lane.  But fair value accounting assumes that the government is just like any other firm, when in fact it has unique abilities (compulsion, scale, longevity, lack of a profit-motive, currency, etc.) that distinguish it from any private firm.

4.  The two CBPP wonks at the panel, Richard Kogan and Paul N. Van de Water, went medieval on everyone else; it was like watching a kung-fu fight.  That whole crew is awesome.  Read their entire report, but note their points about "phantom costs" and that if we need a higher discount for risk-bearing is it weird that we don't need a lower discount for risk-mitigating programs like Social Security and unemployment insurance.

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Mark Schmitt: Why We May Want America to Decline

Apr 16, 2012

In the latest episde of our weekly Bloggingheads series, "Fireside Chats," Roosevelt Institute Senior Fellow Mark Schmitt and Edward Luce o

In the latest episde of our weekly Bloggingheads series, "Fireside Chats," Roosevelt Institute Senior Fellow Mark Schmitt and Edward Luce of the Financial Times ask whether the American decline we hear Republicans bemoaning on the campaign trail is really such a bad thing. In the clip below, Mark notes that as we fall, others rise. "One part of it is simply relative economic growth compared to China and India, and some of that is either that's just how life is going to be, or maybe you even want it to be that way."

Given that the economic dominance of the U.S. and Europe was never a natural state of affairs and that something truly awful would need to happen to keep countries like China and India from gaining power at this point in their development, Mark argues that "a certain amount of relative decline is not in itself the end of the world."

Mark and Edward also examine some of the growing disfunctions in America's political system, from rising inequality to political gridlock brought on by Republicans. Mark notes that "it's a poltiics in which paralyis benefits certain players, and they're going to use that." He explains that "we tend to think of paralysis in sort of game theory terms," as a "tragedy of the commons with two people each trying to do good things," but "that's not always true. Sometimes that's exactly what people want to create and benefit from." For more, including Mark and Edward's thoughts on the benefits of the German education system and the inside dirt on Larry Summers, check out the full video below:

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How Taxes Can Really Reduce Inequality

Mar 29, 2012Mark Schmitt

The progressive argument on taxes shouldn't focus exclusively on marginal rates. We need to rethink all the harmful incentives in our tax code to fight inequality.

The progressive argument on taxes shouldn't focus exclusively on marginal rates. We need to rethink all the harmful incentives in our tax code to fight inequality.

Just out in the Boston Review this month is a forum on inequality -- not just the problem, but what to do about it, featuring Roosevelt Institute Fellow Mike Konczal among the participants. The lead essay by David Grusky argues that progressives have rushed to assume that redistributive tax policy (that is, tax rate increases on the very rich) are the obvious remedy for inequality, neglecting the structural distortions -- what he calls, confusingly, "rents" or "market failures" -- that allow the very rich to build up an even greater share of wealth before taxes than after. Grusky argues that rather than hoping for redistributive taxes to ameliorate pre-tax inequality, we should address the structural forces. He mentions two: high CEO pay and profound inequalities in educational opportunity.

Grusky is right that there is a limit to what modest changes to the progressivity of tax rates at the high end can do. Even assuming that economists Thomas Piketty, Emanuel Saez, and Stefanie Stancheva are correct in their contribution to the forum that the top individual income tax rate could go as high as 83 percent without adverse economic impact, there is a political limit which is no less real than an economic limit. Even progressives are reluctant to talk about raising marginal rates higher than 39.6 percent (the pre-Bush top rate) or the low 40s, and then only on those with incomes more than five times the median. Tax rate increases, absent a radical political transformation, will adjust for inequality only at the edges.

Other than Piketty et al, the respondents don't disagree with that point, but doubt Grusky's basic assumptions about inequality from a variety of angles. Konczal, for example, points out that it's not just inequality of pure income we should be concerned about, but radical inequalities of voice and political power.

But there's an important point that none of the respondents make, which is that there's more to taxes than marginal rates. The structure of taxation itself affects the "rents" or distortions that benefit the very wealthy and burden the working poor. Both of Grusky's alternatives show this. Take, for example, high CEO pay. Grusky argues that a higher tax rate would do little to change the structural incentives (captive boards, for example) that have driven up CEO pay. That may be right. But the tax code has created its own incentives for companies to overpay CEOs. For example, the limit of $1 million on the amount of executive pay that can be deducted as a business expense can be avoided if the pay is linked to performance. This not only permits high pay packages, it encourages CEOs to focus on short-term performance, which is often not in the long-term interest of the company or its employees.

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Favorable tax treatment of stock options also encourages high CEO pay. And many economists believe that the 1986 Tax Reform Act, which brought the top individual income tax rate lower than the corporate tax rate, encouraged corporate executives to take profits as pay rather than let it stay in the corporation where it would be taxed at a higher rate. There is certainly a strong correlation, as the sharp climb in CEO pay begins at exactly that point.

Which is to say, we can do more with the tax code than just fiddle with rates. We can change incentives in the corporate tax or the individual income tax to change the incentives on executive pay. We could even vary the corporate tax rate based on CEO or top executive pay, or the ratio of the CEO pay to average-worker pay, benefitting corporations like Whole Foods that both pay their CEOs less and average workers more.

Grusky's other proposal is to radically broaden access to higher education, by "increasing the number of slots in higher education and committing to fair and open competition for them." He's not very specific about how to do that. But, again, the tax code provides some examples of how we already structure access to higher education in ways that benefit the better-off. Tax benefits -- deductions and credits -- form an ever-larger share of how we pay for higher education, totaling $14.7 billion in 2012. While one program, the (temporary) American Opportunity Tax Credit, is refundable, so that even families that pay no income tax can benefit, the majority are not, and programs such as 529 accounts for college savings benefit almost exclusively the well-off. A study by the College Board showed that households with incomes over $100,000 receive 26 percent of the benefits of higher education tax expenditures. Pell Grants, on the other hand, overwhelmingly benefit students from families with incomes below $50,000. Pell Grants are scheduled to be cut under last summer's budget deal. A shift from some of the tax expenditure programs to Pell Grants would preserve college opportunity for millions of low- and moderate-income students.

There's more to the tax code than marginal rates. In many ways, the code's complex web of incentives and preferences represents the deep structure of our national priorities, one that often seems to benefit the middle class while largely benefiting the wealthy. Tax reform that looks at much more than the top rate can address economic inequality in exactly the way Grusky proposes.

Mark Schmitt is a Senior Fellow and Director of the Fellows Program at the Roosevelt Institute.

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It Can Get Better Now: Improving the School Climate for LGBT Students

Mar 23, 2012Jessica Morris

classroom 309As part of the 10 Ideas: A Millennial Lesson Plan for Education series, a proposed law that would make schools a safe place to learn for students of all orientations.

classroom 309As part of the 10 Ideas: A Millennial Lesson Plan for Education series, a proposed law that would make schools a safe place to learn for students of all orientations.

Two years ago, Constance McMillen, a lesbian student, was told she couldn't take her girlfriend to her high school's prom and wear a tuxedo. After U.S. District Court Judge Glen H. Davidson ruled that the Itawamba County School District violated the First Amendment at the court hearing, outraged parents organized a secret prom without sending an invitation to Constance. She ended up transferring to another high school. On July 20th, 2010, the school district settled by paying her $35,000 and agreeing to implement a non-discrimination policy that would include sexual orientation.

This story immediately spread like wildfire to the Facebook community, as well as to major news networks including CNN and USA Today. People furiously questioned the level of protection lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) students actually have in public schools. Along with the bullying Constance faced from the students, the school board members aggravated homophobic discrimination by keeping her from attending the prom due to her sexual orientation. How could this happen? Currently only 11 states, including DC, protect LGBT youth in public schools. This means that in 39 states, LGBT students are not protected from harassment.

Homophobic harassment, especially from peers, is often present in schools. In a Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network (GLSEN) study from 2009, 84.6 percent of LGBT students reported being verbally harassed. Over 60 percent of these students felt unsafe in school because of their sexual orientation, while 39.9 percent felt unsafe because of their gender expression. A majority, 63.7 percent, reported being verbally harassed, while 27.2 percent reported being physically harassed and 12.5 percent reported being physically assaulted at school because of their gender expression. This is a call for reforming policies in the education system nationally. These students need support.

The It Gets Better project is a collaboration of videos from celebrities, young people, and even politicians, including the president, telling LGBT youth that their lives will get better and that suicide is not the answer. Though these tearful, uplifting videos provide a sense of community and positive messages for LGBT teens, they cannot promise actual protection. A national law prohibiting the discrimination of LGBT teens can fulfill that promise.

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The Student Non-Discrimination Act can help assuage homophobic and transphobic harassment in school and forbid schools from discriminating against LGBT students. It was introduced in the 111th Congress in 2010, but was rejected. Now it has been referred to the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions after being introduced in the Senate by Senator Al Franken and in the House by Representative Jared Polis and cosponsored by 152 members of Congress. It forces federal departments and agencies to curtail any financial assistance for public schools that prevent students from participating in programs because of their sexual preference or gender identity, or those that condone homophobic and transphobic harassment.

In addition to the enforcements this bill would provide, workshops on sensitivity to homophobia should be required for all public school teachers and administrative staff. Through these workshops, teachers and staff members will have the resources to combat homophobic and transphobic behavior in and outside of the classroom. There are already examples of successful programs for these kinds of trainings. The Rochester school district and the New York City Department of Education have a program called "Respect for All," hosted by GLSEN, and the American Civil Liberties Union has "Making Schools Safe." GLSEN's survey reports that the grade point average of students who were more frequently harassed because of their sexual orientation or gender expression was almost half a grade lower than for students were less often harassed. These developmental trainings, which take place prior to the beginning of the school year, will not only boost morale, but they can lead to higher test scores.

A few days ago, I read an article on the Huffington Post introducing a program called "Stories Project: NOW" from GLSEN Greater Cincinnati. It focuses on ensuring the safety of LGBT students by offering training to create a better climate in their schools. A teacher in the video critiqued a staff member for being unsupportive and sending ignorant messages to a LGBT student:

"I was recently talking to a student who said, 'When I went to my guidance counselor to talk about why I was being bullied, the guidance counselor repeatedly said, 'well what can you do to change the situation?'' The idea that a student should be changing their behavior because they're being bullied is a problem and that doesn't come from the students, that comes from the adults."

Why should LGBT students wait to have their lives get better? They should be protected from being bullied either from fellow students or staff members now. Policies should be implemented immediately to ensure the safety of our youth and so that the stories of them taking their lives can end.

Jessica Morris is a Roosevelt Institute | Campus Network member and a first -year student at Mount Holyoke College. She majors in politics and minors in law and public policy.

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